<![CDATA[Mission of the Atonement - Blog]]>Thu, 24 May 2012 21:31:14 -0800Weebly<![CDATA[Reflection: Psalm 67]]>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:47:54 -0800http://www.motaspirit.org/1/post/2012/02/reflection-psalm-67.htmlFrom Amy Manning:
Psalm 67 – The Nations Called to Praise God

To the leader: with stringed instruments. A Psalm. A Song.


May God be gracious to us and bless us
and make his face to shine upon us, 
   Selah
that your way may be known upon earth,
your saving power among all nations.
Let the peoples praise you, O God;
let all the peoples praise you.
Let the nations be glad and sing for joy,
for you judge the peoples with equity
and guide the nations upon earth.
   Selah
Let the peoples praise you, O God;
let all the peoples praise you.
The earth has yielded its increase;
God, our God, has blessed us.
May God continue to bless us;
let all the ends of the earth revere him.

When I read psalm 67 this week, I smiled deeply, closed my eyes and listened. I could see and hear Pastor Laurie sending us out into our busy lives with this closing blessing each week. I paused and let the blessing wash over me, feeling it in my body, how blessed, how very blessed and grateful I did feel upon hearing those words at the close of each service. And a quiet prayer would spring forth from that each week. 'Stay present to that grace and peace and be peace and blessing to all you meet, and in all that you do, and think and speak.' I am sure I am not alone in leaving with that sense of being blessed and called to be blessing, feeling refreshed and wanting to hold on to that.

Our family has had a year, really longer than that, full of losses and challenges, one right after another. I joked to Rich once that I was thinking about changing my name to Job. I didn't know if I could take anymore. And yet, that sense of abiding love and blessing in the midst of such raw grief, was like a deep well sustaining me. Thank you Holy Spirit! And thank you, my MOTA family, for the prayers and support that have been so nourishing.

May we continue to be that for one another. May we stay present to that grace and peace, so that we become peace and blessing to all we meet, and in all we do, and think, and speak.

We are assured that God’s love is boundless and boundary-less. With joy and gratitude we are called to be bridges of peace and compassion, within and between, our nations, neighbors, families and our own heart. How has God’s blessing sustained you in dark times? How does it manifest in you to be God’s light for others? ]]><![CDATA[Reflection: Emerging Church]]>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:25:27 -0800http://www.motaspirit.org/1/post/2012/02/reflection-emerging-church.htmlFrom Lois Delcambre:

Please view the 5 minute video, then read the reflection below.
Summary of the Emerging Church – Father Richard Rohr (Center for Action and Contemplation)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WVLFapHqP8&feature=related

To emerge … is to become apparent … become important … become prominent.

What a time to celebrate! 

Imagine a church where everyone is welcome, where no questions are off limits, where we challenge each other to be guided by the love of Christ in all aspect of our lives … broadly and richly.  How can that be wrong?

It has always seemed to me that Christianity is more important than denomination.  (Perhaps that’s because I was raised Lutheran and then Baptist and then Lutheran; then I married a Catholic and attended Catholic mass for fifteen years.  It also helps to explain why being part of Mission of the Atonement is so important to me.)  On the other hand, tradition offers us such comfort.  When I took (Lutheran) communion for the first time at Mission of the Atonement – while kneeling at the altar rail – I worked hard to hold back the tears.  It was so powerful to be welcomed to Christ’s table after fifteen years using the traditions of my childhood.  Richard Rohr suggests that the emerging church is a movement that gratefully embraces tradition, on the one hand, while searching and striving for a new consensus to ground, deepen, and personalize our faith.

Richard Rohr also says that, historically, the church has provided us with doctrine (a belief or set of beliefs held and taught by a church, political party, or other group ) and dogma (a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true).  It seems to me that it’s part of human nature to want things to be clear and definitive, especially when things are important.  It would be so comforting if living our lives as Christians were as easy as following a checklist (don’t dance or don’t eat certain foods on certain days or don’t drink caffeine or …).  We have such a longing for living our lives as a Christian and we have such a longing to know the truth.  It’s easy to see why more rigid, perhaps more traditional faith practices have such appeal.

But, as our pastors and priests and Mission of the Atonement tell us: life is messy; being a Christian is messy.  It seems to me that the emerging church is asking us to engage more fully, question more deeply, and live more richly as Christians.

]]><![CDATA[Reflection: Humble Leadership]]>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:30:03 -0800http://www.motaspirit.org/1/post/2012/02/reflection-humble-leadership.htmlFrom Brad Newman:

1 Kings 3:5-14  Solomon’s Prayer for Wisdom
At Gibeon the Lord appeared to Solomon in a dream by night; and God said, ‘Ask what I should give you.’ And Solomon said, ‘You have shown great and steadfast love to your servant my father David, because he walked before you in faithfulness, in righteousness, and in uprightness of heart towards you; and you have kept for him this great and steadfast love, and have given him a son to sit on his throne today.

And now, O Lord my God, you have made your servant king in place of my father David, although I am only a little child; I do not know how to go out or come in. And your servant is in the midst of the people whom you have chosen, a great people, so numerous they cannot be numbered or counted. Give your servant therefore an understanding mind to govern your people, able to discern between good and evil; for who can govern this your great people?’

It pleased the Lord that Solomon had asked this. God said to him, ‘Because you have asked this, and have not asked for yourself long life or riches, or for the life of your enemies, but have asked for yourself understanding to discern what is right, I now do according to your word. Indeed I give you a wise and discerning mind; no one like you has been before you and no one like you shall arise after you. I give you also what you have not asked, both riches and honor all your life; no other king shall compare with you.

I consider myself to be raised heathen.  Church was something that happened occasionally when I visited my grandparents, and it involved waking up early, candles, funny clothes, singing, being trapped in a room full of kids I didn't know, graham crackers, and waiting.  Waiting until we could leave and go have pancakes at grandma and grandad's house. So I have little foundation in the stories of the bible.  They have not been the rich source of tradition that they have for others.  I knew the hits: Moses and the plagues, Jesus and the empty tomb, Noah's ark, Samson and Delilah, David and Goliath, Jesus walking on water, Adam and Eve.  Beyond that it was a weird jumble of riddles, murder ballads, lists of names, poems that didn't rhyme, and scolding.

This turns out to be both beneficial and detrimental as I have approached the Bible as an adult. I am free of preconceived interpretations and am able to bring all my critical faculties to bear when experiencing these words. But I am also free of the larger context that they live in, and have limited capacity for turning those critical faculties off.  I think this is why I find myself drawn to the line "I am only a little child; I do not know how to go out or come in," in Solomon's prayer. It is a reminder that my experience at MOTA has been one of initiation and surrender. The more time I spend with these stories the more deeply I feel my inexperience, the more I feel I must rely on an open-hearted surrender to the divine.  

I am also impressed by the notion of Solomon humbling himself as he's about to assume the role of king.  What a refreshing idea.  What a contrast this is to the stereotype of a person in power in my head. Yet, if I bring this notion closer to home, I realize that we are all called to some position of power in one way or the other.  Even if we're not the boss at work and don't have children we are responsible for, we still have to manage ourselves.  We have to direct our course through all manner of decisions that have implications from the cellular level to the communal.

I take Solomon's prayer to be a reminder that our initiation is never complete, and that even when we are familiar with the terms we still have much to learn.  I wonder how many in our community feel themselves to be on the outside looking in.  Have you ever been put in a position of leadership and felt yourself humbled by the choices in front of you?  Perhaps we can all recall Solomon and his ability to look at his new role as a child would.

]]><![CDATA[Reflection #1: A Liturgy for Ordinary Radicals]]>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:28:01 -0800http://www.motaspirit.org/1/post/2012/02/reflection-1-a-liturgy-for-ordinary-radicals.htmlFrom Jon Erickson:

Last fall we began doing "email reflections".  Since it was very well received, we are starting again from February through May.  Many of the scriptures are from the Lectionary and some are, well  . . . not.  And some may not even be scriptures.

We are the authors.  The intent is not for a formal theological response or dissertation.  They are meant to be our reflections, our stories, our thoughts and our feelings.  So that we may be washed by the Spirit.  It is a way for us to be united and connected.  Look for them on Tuesdays and Fridays.


Below is from the "Common Prayer:  A Liturgy for Ordinary Radicals"

May the peace of the Lord Jesus Christ go with you: wherever he may send you;may he guide you through the wilderness: protect you through the storm;may he bring you home rejoicing: at the wonders he has shown you;may he bring you home rejoicing: once again into our doors.

There are times when I look at the weather map and plan to go around the storm.  I think it will keep me safe.  But that is when I want to be the pilot in command.

It goes against my grain when I hear the words "wherever he may send you".  It is hard to head for the dark clouds or a place that is new and unknown. 

I need to take a deep breath and remember "the wonders he has shown . . ."

And yet I know, but need reminding, that Jesus wants to be present at our "home rejoicing".

When did you last ask for guidance in the wilderness? ]]><![CDATA[Interfaith Unity]]>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:42:32 -0800http://www.motaspirit.org/1/post/2012/02/interfaith-unity.html
by Pastor Laurie Larson Caesar
Our Mission of the Atonement community experienced a gorgeous service on the surprising gifts of interfaith conversations and study this first month of 2012. Through the thoughtful words of Mary Follen, Claire Gilbert, Annette Stixrud, Catherine Arnold and Christopher Predeek, we were reminded of so much that needs to be said, clearly and directly, from the pulpit:  In our current culture, we are surrounded by neighbors from all over the world.  Faithful, humble living takes many faith forms. And, Christ's message - his very life - was rooted in love, healing and listening.  It's not that respect for other faith traditions is allowed in our tradition, in other words; it is that Christian hospitality and humility require it!

I was reminded of the life and leadership of one of my mentors, the well-known Lutheran New Testament scholar Krister Stendahl.  He served as Dean of Harvard Divinity School in the 1970s, and later, as chair of the World Council of Churches’ Consultation on the Church and the Jewish People, he directed a commission that prepared the way for much important interfaith work of the last 30 years.

"I would,” Bishop Stendahl once said, “apply the same rules for good leadership that I often do for effective interfaith dialogue:

    Let the other define herself (‘Don’t think you know the other without listening’)

    Compare equal to equal (not ‘my’ positive qualities to the negative ones of the other)

    Find beauty in the other so as to develop ‘holy envy’.”

I find that these three principles serve me well, when I remember to live deeply out of them, in my ministry and my life.  I have found other practitioners of these principles at Mission of the Atonement.  Living in the tension of this Catholic-Lutheran community has taught us the importance of listening, beginning with openness and not defensiveness, and especially the surprising blessings of "Holy Envy."

The twentieth-century theologian Max Warren said it this way:

"Our first task in approaching another people, another culture, another religion is to take off our shoes, for the place we are approaching is holy. Else we may find ourselves treading on their dreams.  More serious still, we may forget that God was here before our arrival."
A rich and woundrous article:  "Why I Love the Bible" by the Rev. Krister Stendahl
http://www.hds.harvard.edu/news-events/harvard-divinity-bulletin/articles/why-i-love-the-bible 
]]><![CDATA[My Thoughts on the Advent Soup Suppers, December 2011]]>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 12:58:59 -0800http://www.motaspirit.org/1/post/2012/01/my-thoughts-on-the-advent-soup-suppers-december-2011.htmlPicture
My Thoughts on the Advent Soup Suppers, December 2011

by Mike Gettel-Gilmartin

We were fortunate this Advent to have a wonderful speaker for a fascinating topic. Sarah Peyton (www.empathybrain.com) proved to be a fountain of knowledge on the working of the brain and a skilled facilitator on the subject of nonviolent communication. I learned three major things.

All about the amygdala: The amygdala is an almond-shaped mass of nuclei located deep within the temporal lobe of the brain. This limbic system structure is involved in many of our emotions and motivations, particularly those related to survival. The amygdala processes emotions such as fear, anger, and pleasure, and determines which memories are stored and where they are stored in our brains. When we feel threatened, the amygdala grabs control and we flip our lids. Sarah demonstrated this effectively by folding her fingers over her thumb in the middle of her open palm. When the amygdala feels threatened, the fingers fly open (the “flipped lid” effect) and no energy or information flows to or from the prefrontal cortex.

Feelings and needs: Sarah talked about the different feelings we have when our needs are not being met and how important it is to recognize these underlying needs. We practiced expressing these to each other in small groups. She also introduced us to the concept of faux feelings, which are evaluative words like ”rejected” or ”threatened.“ These types of words suggest that someone is doing something TO you, which can in turn create feelings of greater distance. Sarah then shared the concept of “giraffe words,” which connect back to the heart. For example, instead of blurting out, “I’m feeling rejected,” we would do well to rephrase this as “I’m feeling (hurt/scared/angry) because my need for (inclusion/acknowledgement/connection) is not being met.” Again, we practiced using these giraffe words instead of “jackal” (or alienating) words.

Hearing that someone was expressing an unmet need was an “Aha!” moment for me. It disengaged my fight-or-flight response, and got me thinking of ways in which I might help the person meet their needs.

Intentional listening: Finally, I saw the power of intentional listening in action, when one of our community members demonstrated movement along an “anger line.” When this person’s concerns were listened to without us giving her advice, we saw a visible change in her bearing and even her complexion. The flush that anger had produced in her disappeared, and she became calmer.

This article gives a good overview of much of what Sarah covered. Thanks to everyone involved in creating the Advent soup supper program. Not only did we receive delicious food for our bodies, we also received much food for thought and sustenance for our souls.

]]><![CDATA[Christmas Reflection #2]]>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:15:40 -0800http://www.motaspirit.org/1/post/2012/01/christmas-reflection-2.htmlLuke 2:4-7

“So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David. He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child. While they were there, the time came for the baby to be born, and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son. She wrapped him in cloths and placed him in a manger, because there was no guest room available or them.”

 In the above 4 verses, we get an account of one of the major events around which our Christian faith revolves at this time of the year: Christmas , the birth of Jesus. It is a short passage, but each sentence is bursting with information that in itself is extremely significant in its implications if you read it carefully and place it in the context of about 2000 years ago: Joseph and his pregnant wife had to travel from the northern Israeli town of Nazareth to Bethlehem, just south of Jerusalem, which according to Google Maps, is about 160 km or 100 miles!  Assuming they traveled on foot, this must have been quite a journey for a pregnant woman and her fiancée.  I wonder what they encountered along the way and where they slept at night: surely this  trip must have taken quite a few days.

In the second sentence, we learn of the significant fact that she was not yet married but with child, also representing a major act of faith on both the part of both Mary and Joseph. 

The third sentence reports the birth of their baby: for anybody who has ever given birth or witnessed a birth, this is not for the faint of heart but involves very hard work on the part of the woman and is appropriately referred to as labor. There is no mention of a birth attendant/ midwife, no hospital or medical support, no drugs to ease the pain , or help for the new parents with all  the needs and questions that arise with a new baby. In fact, Mary and Joseph and their newborn end up in a stable and use a manger as the baby’s crib, wrapping Jesus in a cloth. 

In light of this perspective, one can only marvel at the faith that both Mary and Joseph display by going on this journey: they must have utterly  and completely trusted each other as well as God to even think about undertaking this trip.

When I think of my personal challenges and compare them to the above scenario, they appear much more trivial by comparison. In this passage and many others in the Bible, we have great examples of how to trust God to help us to fulfill our potential if we just allow ourselves to be guided. How can we face our own obstacles without losing faith in our God, with whose guidance  everything becomes possible?  How are we being challenged to take that journey, literally or figuratively, to grow in faith? How can we become a little bit of God to others and  by supporting them, further the Kindom? What is keeping us from putting our trust in the One who watches over us every bit as much as God watched over Mary and Joseph as they traveled to Bethlehem 2011 years ago?

Jabke Buesseler
]]><![CDATA[Christmas Reflection #1]]>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 21:25:00 -0800http://www.motaspirit.org/1/post/2011/12/advent-reflection-7.htmlLuke 1: 46-55
And Mary said: My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my savior, for God has been mindful of the humble state of this servant.  From now on all generations will call me blessed, for the mighty one has done great things for me -- holy is God's name.  God's mercy extends to those who fear God, from generation to generation. God has performed mighty deeds with an arm; has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts, has brought down rulers from from their thrones, but has lifted up the humble, has filled the hungry  with good things, but has sent the rich away empty, has helped God's servant Israel , remembering to be merciful to Abraham and Sarah and their descendants  forever, just as was promised our ancestors.

and from "Response to New Trends in Religious Life:a Franciscan Experience by Ilia Delio, OSF

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Reflections
Without Mary's "yes" to God' s invitation to carry Jesus we would not be celebrating  Advent. It is also helpful to remember that we too are called to give birth to Christ. In the Gospel message, Mary writes about herself:  "God has been mindful of the humble state of this servant. In a section of the Delio article, she recognizes our call to name the good that exists, to  identify with the  good as sister or brother and to help bring Christ to birth.  Our goal is to share the human condition because in solidarity of personhood we see the goodness of God shining through fragile humanity. They both see our fragility  and yet call us to make Christ alive, to birth Christ from within.

 We cannot see God in ordinary flesh, without seeing God first in our own human hearts.  Therefore it is necessary to hold solitude, prayer and silence as important dimensions to our every day life.  The pattern of Jesus' life is fundamental to life, especially the values of compassionate forgiveness, reconciliation, love and peace. In striving for these precious qualities, we are whole makers.  To be saved is to attain a healthy life for a healthy compass.  While I believe that Jesus is the Christ, I also believe that Christ is more  than Jesus because as Word Incarnate, Christ includes every person every creature and the whole universe.  Therefore what God has done to Mary, we see that what God wishes to do to each and every one of us.

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1. Are there situations where you sense a call to be a   "whole-maker"?

2. How do you see the world as rich in God's blessings?

3. How do you see that the universe is incomplete, in which Christ is still coming to be?

4.  What are the implications of the following belief:  Our goal is to share the human condition because in solidarity of personhood we see the goodness of God shining through fragile humanity?

5.  What does Advent teach you about living as a person in relationships?

6.  Is there a reflection which you would like to add to questions? If so, please do.
]]><![CDATA[Book Review: Tattoos on the Heart]]>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 11:37:00 -0800http://www.motaspirit.org/1/post/2011/12/book-review-tattoos-on-the-heart.htmlTattoos on the Heart: The Power of Boundless Compassion
Book Review by Marie Gettel-Gilmartin

I first heard of this book when our pastor read a memorable story during her sermon--of taking two homeboys out to a restaurant for the first time in their lives. Gregory Boyle is a Jesuit priest in Los Angeles and the founder and executive director ofHomeboy Industries--the largest gang intervention program in the country. The organization's motto is "Nothing stops a bullet like a job." Fr. Boyle has been working amongst gang-afflicted kids and young adults for 24 years.

This book is a collection of his stories--full of gut-wrenching pain, beauty, loss, and grace.
He tells stories about homies who are shocked to their core that someone actually believes in them or takes the time for them. Kids who have never felt any worth finally get real jobs and make lives for themselves. Sworn enemies work side by side and become friends. He writes about the women of his church, who love these kids through their flaws and felonies. 

The stories are interspersed with lovely quotes that help emphasize his stories and message, such as this one: 
"It's when we face for a moment the worst our kind can do, and shudder to know the taint in our own selves, that awe cracks the mind's shell and enters the heart." --Denise Levertov  Some of these kids have been abandoned or abused by their parents and have never experienced the Japanese concept of "amae," living in a deep sense of being cherished. 

Fr. Boyle and his colleagues attempt to do this for the homies. He notes, "The great encounter with the 'father wound' is every homeboy's homework." He also writes about moms who take seven separate buses to see their sons, every Sunday, and compares this dedication to the expansive heart of God.

He writes about hardened, violent, criminal gangsters who turn into emotional little boys when they are deeply loved unconditionally.

The title, "Tattoos on the Heart," comes from this story, which gives you a brief glimpse of the deep, enduring effects Fr. Boyle (or "G," as they call him) has on the young people he helps:
"Once, after dealing with a particularly exasperating homie named Sharkey, I switch my strategy and decide to catch him in the act of doing the right thing. I can see I have been too harsh and exacting with him, and he is, after all, trying the best he can. I tell him how heroic he is and how the courage he now exhibits in transforming his life far surpasses the hollow 'bravery' of his barrio past. I tell him that he is a giant among men. I mean it. Sharkey seems to be thrown off balance by all this and silently stares at me. Then he says, 'Damn, G...I'm gonna tattoo that on my heart.'"In his 24 years of working with homeboys and homegirls, Boyle has buried 168+ of them. Can you imagine? 

This book brought tears to my eyes multiple times. Boyle lives out his belief that it is our responsibility as human beings to make sure "the voices on the margins get heard and the circle of compassion widens." I feel honored to have witnessed a tiny glimpse of this compassion through these stories. ]]><![CDATA[Advent #6 from Margaret Armstrong]]>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 08:53:13 -0800http://www.motaspirit.org/1/post/2011/12/advent-6-from-margaret-armstrong.html Luke 2
 15-18 As the angel choir withdrew into heaven, the sheepherders talked it over. "Let's get over to Bethlehem as fast as we can and see for ourselves what God has revealed to us." They left, running, and found Mary and Joseph, and the baby lying in the manger. Seeing was believing. They told everyone they met what the angels had said about this child. All who heard the sheepherders were impressed.
 19-20 Mary kept all these things to herself, holding them dear, deep within herself. The sheepherders returned and let loose, glorifying and praising God for everything they had heard and seen. It turned out exactly the way they'd been told!

Images, emotions and memories surround these familiar words: “ Mary and Joseph, and the baby lying in the manger.”   Seeing was believing.”  Mary, the mother of God.

As long as I can remember the first Christmas decoration that came out in my childhood and for over forty years in our  own home is the nativity set.  I inherited ours  from a great aunt.  It is not fancy, it is depression era, and several pieces have been mended, some are missing. Four generations have moved these ceramic pieces around.  The hand made stable has the remnants of a label –it was built from a box of oranges imported from Japan.   I walk by each day, say a little prayer, and often rearrange a piece or two.  

 So how 2000 years later do I see and believe.  I see through experiences of grace in my life, the unexpected glimpses of God’s work within and among us.

Moments from today:

•  In my files I found a message sent by Pastor Laurie from the Sunday we were snowed out a few years ago.
“We are all meant to be mothers of God.  What good is it to me if this eternal birth of the divine Son takes place unceasingly but does not take place within myself?  And, what good is it to me if Mary is full of grace if I am not also full of grace?  What good is it to me for Creator to give birth to his Son If I do not also give birth to him in my time and my culture?  This, then, is the fullness of time:  When the Son of God is begotten in us” Meister Eckhart (14th Century)

• An e-mail newsletter “On Being with Krista Tippet” included a review of  “The Book of Customs: A complete Handbook for the Jewish Year”.   The phrase “navigating life while marking sacred time” stood out.  I am reminded of my desire to understand more of our Jewish heritage.

• The MoTA e-news lead me to Bruce Flath’s review of “The Great Emergence How Christianity is Changing and Why” by Phyllis Tickle.   I was struck by the “observers think it will, rewrite Christian theology — and thereby North American culture — into something far more Jewish, more paradoxical, more narrative, and more mystical than anything the Church has had for the last seventeen or eighteen hundred years.”  I want to read this book.

• Kathy Truman’s Facebook post with Amy Grant singing “Breath of Heaven” (Mary’s song) the refrain “Hold me together, be forever near me” resonated with me.

 • Reflecting on Mary, the mother of God, the feminine God I think of our trip to Mexico City in October  Ed and I were both  unexpectedly moved  by the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe in the  Cathedral.  For me miracle of the shroud is the blending of cultures, symbols beliefs and faith.  It was powerful reminder of the  power and presence of  God, the Mother.

For the shepherds “Seeing was believing” For me experiencing God’s presence is belief. I am blessed on a daily basis to be part of our amazing church family.  God’s presence can be seen and felt in interactions, compassion, sharing, worshiping, discernment, studying and preparing ---Together we are navigating life while marking sacred time.

Do you ever feel the eager spiritual anticipation of the shepherds in Bethlehem?

How and when do you  “see” God in your life?

 Think of a time when you heard God's Word where you least expected it.  

  Have you shared those deep experiences with "everyone you've met?” With anyone?   

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